un: oriade

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for those who reached level cap
congrats
lemme pvp with you some time
anyway
ive seen several level cap bonus gear around
feels like i got the short end of the stick
along with a few others
it looks like theyre special in a way
what did everyone get?
ill wear mine with a costume over it
it looks like it gives the highest stats for this cap at least
so thats something............

Comments

[dissimulative]

do you ever wear anything that doesnt fit you for the whole day
especially if smaller?
feels uncomfortable and you cant stop thinking about it

[tablescraps]

Yes. That sounds similar to the armor I received; it was sized for another person. Is that the case for your armor?

[dissimulative]

no
probably not
i dont know
i feel like im being made fun of

[tablescraps]

Maybe discomfort was the intent. This game functions via feeding information to our brain and us indicating input via brain impulse. It's not unreasonable to suggest other information has been accessed besides just sending sensory input.

But it Zelkova claims level cap armor wasn't intended, then it may have been implemented by an additional internal actor.

( You know, since we've seen evidence of at least one existing and enabling features that didn't previously exist, and all.

He kind of wonders if admins will say anything about it for referencing the concept of it in public though. )

[dissimulative]

uggGGGGHHHHHH
wow this beta test sure needed one
hope the next patch is better
with some additional security

[tablescraps]

That, and I imagine they're not fond of the fact that they may be able to actively access information (to what extent?) in our brains with as much clarity as reading a library book is likely a breach of privacy.

I'm certain they may have already been capable of it; they likely did not want it advertised, especially not as early as beta.

( Like how Apple and Amazon kept it on the DL until they became pervasive enough everyone just gave up and decided a breach of privacy was just a thing they could learn to live with, )

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[ Should he have his dad threaten to sue CC Corp...? He knows his mother will go absolutely hostile at the company if she finds out, and his father will probably be more reasonable about it in a nicer way. Hm. ]

this is such a painnn
can you do researcher stuff on the tos

[tablescraps]

( Mithrun disappears for a long period of time. You may suspect he's rereading every single page of the waivers and terms of service they signed. )

The Terms of Service and Non-Disclosure Agreement papers are relatively generic, and relatively standard for what they are. They're vague enough to cover a wide breadth of consequences (ie, Terms of Service 17.204 "Players may feel some side effects from sustained usage of Virtual Reality technology;" this may potentially cover anything from discomfort to seizures).

A terms of service like this can't viably cover breaches of privacy or targeted harassment, but proving these things is also in itself a challenge. Because (as far as I'm aware) no recordings of my conversation with my brother exist, this being why CC Corp should not be able to produce an item with transcriptions of these conversations, I cannot prove that these conversations have been transcribed onto this item. Similarly, you may need to prove targeted harassment or discomfort in your case (or explain why you did not swap out armor sets for one that is more comfortable).

While I posited that this information has been accessed directly from our minds, I would also need to prove this is possible, as this technology does not currently exist (as far as the public, and therefore the legal system, is aware). CC Corp would have to confirm the existence of this technology, and they are unlikely to do so if they are knowingly capable of it.

And if there is an internal actor utilizing this technology without the representative forces of CC Corp's knowledge, that further complicates litigation efforts.

And by all technicality, CC Corp is likely not yet in violation of writs issued by any ethical committees. This project likely received approval from its home country's Board at several points in the planning, building, and execution of Fragment. Not only are forbiddances generally established retroactively, the general rate of technological advance exceeds the pace at which a Board operates. CC Corp's technology is even further ahead of the pack.

Very likely, should our experiences ever become public (and they potentially never be, depending on interpretation of the terms set within the NDA we signed, and whether our future retellings gain public or legal traction), we may become basis for future rulings against certain uses for virtual reality technology. But we're currently in uncharted territory legally and ethically. It's the ideal stretch of time to experiment and research; you can gain funding, act on your directives and hypotheses, and publish your research or publicize your product. It would require an extensive media campaign to redact public perception of especially sensationalized findings, even if your research or product is later held in contempt.

It is, of course, not impossible to do something at this stage, legally. But it is rather challenging, as technological advancement moves quicker than any legal process.

( he really didnt need to write all that and yet here we are )

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[ Because this is Mithrun, Oria half expected for him not to bother or go all-in on the topic. He only finds out that it's the latter when he sees this response after a long time.

He really didn't need to write all that, but Oria didn't have to read all this either, but he feels like he should since he asked for it. But also, he can't find any holes in Mithrun's deduction either. ]

thanks
that sure is a gray area
becoming the basis sure is a lot of burden too
and cc corp is definitely testing how far they can go with that
i should have known this would also get tangled with things too

[tablescraps]

You can always stop playing, if it's starting to bother you too much. There will always be other games, and eventually there will be a full release.

( One with perhaps less discomfiting armor for Oria. Maybe. )

[dissimulative]

i can
but i want to keep playing
so ill just swap out the set for something with lower stats when im not going in a dungeon or anything
besides
its not like ill play 24/7
even i have things to do irl