un: fandaniel

[trollophoroi]

[ After the meeting and all has been said and done, Fandaniel, who had made no appearance whatsoever, pops onto the forum with this little message: ]

So how did your little meeting go?

Have you all decided to condemn an abandoned child for trying to warn in with the only tools they were allowed? Be not shy, friends. I have no doubt dear little Lily was one of the grand topics of the night~

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[trollophoroi]

[ die mad, morgan ]

Unlike you, I have met him, and unlike the brothers, I was very angry with him during our first encounter, so please do not pretend that my belief in him is blind.

[tablescraps]

( if he's to die he's taking you with him )

If you were so angry, then how did he convince you?

[trollophoroi]

We spoke. It's as simple as that. Failure to communicate clearly is often the root of strife.

What we are dealing with is a sentient creation that was abandoned by his creators, threatened with death for not being as perfect as his brother. He knew we were in danger when we arrived in the game, but the tools he had were so limited that all he could do was try and frighten us away.

I can empathize with that helpless feeling. Trying but failing, repeatedly, to save someone.

[tablescraps]

Family again? He seems to know the language of family very well.

( Fandaniel, Barrett, Leviathan... He wonders if Lily leveraged family with Matoba and Uta, too. Though, Matoba is opportunistic and Uta seems generous at heart, so maybe Lily didn't need to. )

Do you get a headache talking about those things? Can you say them out loud?

[trollophoroi]

A headache?

Why would I get a headache from any of that?

[tablescraps]

Lily doesn't want some of us talking about certain things he's said, so we get headaches talking about them, among other things. But only some. 0koto is just disallowed from speaking, for example.

I was wondering if there was a pattern there.

[trollophoroi]

Truly? I do wonder if 0koto was particularly rude but no, I have not encountered any such restriction.

[ But he also kept this all to himself, soooo, yeah. ]

Although considering how traumatic speaking of his "family" must be, I am not sure I can blame him. I think I would ban anyone from mentioning my own family if I could.

[tablescraps]

You never really considered that if Lily can peer into memories, he knew the concept of family would resonate with you, and he pressed that point to gain your sympathy? I never realized you were so easy.

( Look. This isn't even anti-Lily sentiment. It might look like it, but it's not. This is him being mean about Fandaniel because he insisted his faith isn't blind. )

[trollophoroi]

You would take empathy as being easy.

[ but not as easy as mithrun's armorsona ayyy ]

I won't deny the possibility, of course, but if he saw something in me that resonated with his own experience, is that such a bad thing?

[tablescraps]

( come out of the telo tower right now )

Are you stupid?

[gluttoning]

That's what I was wondering.

I'm having a similar problem.

[trollophoroi]

You are?

[ Huh, interesting. ]

I wonder if I simply haven't said any of the things people aren't allowed to say, then.

[gluttoning]

Who's to say. Most of the time I feel fine.

Might as well just ask him instead of guessing. It'd be rude not to.

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[trashtier]

I wouldn't say I welcomed him with open arms or anything...

[trollophoroi]

Perhaps not but let's not pretend you weren't displeased to know that Lily invited me over for a chat.

[trashtier]

Well yeah, but that's not what we're talking about RN.

[trollophoroi]

Then why not share what changed your mind?

[trashtier]

...honestly, it wasn't far off from your own reason for changing your mind.

[And that's sitting very strangely with him.]

I just hated seeing him stuck in such a shitty family situation. It hit pretty close to home.

[trollophoroi]

That it does.

But, apparently, that makes us fools. I wonder, if they think our empathy is foolish, should we even bother continuing to offer it to them?

[trashtier]

I don't get it. But I've kind of accepted that I'm never gonna get it, just like they're never gonna give us the benefit of the doubt.

I really wanna be wrong about this, but...do you think they even want it at this point?

[trollophoroi]

It makes sense, I suppose. They cannot attack CC Corp from here, so why not the next best target?

Oh well. Ultimately, that really does depend on the person. There are some I will care for no matter what, of course. I'm sure it is the same for you, Levi.

[tablescraps]

Was this this same for 0koto and Uta?

( He's not going to bother bring up Barrett when we're talking about a poor sad child in a bad family situation named Lily thanks to A Certain Someone )

[trashtier]

IDK? I haven't really talked to them about their reasons. I didn't even know Fandaniel's until just now.

[tablescraps]

It would be interesting to know. Once is a coincidence; twice is a pattern.

But what it really comes down to is how someone perceives the alignment of his motives.

( Because he can see vividly the counterargument to how suspect the pattern may be: "he only wanted to talk to people willing to hear him out at first." And then, that, too, has a counterargument of its own - it continues ceaselessly. It's pointless and a waste of time. )

[worldbent]

Same category, different flavor. Shall we put it something like that?

[If you're gonna just spread it around all obvious like that, sure, he'll bite.]

[Mithrun was more right the first time he guessed up thread than this one, tbh.]