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aw fuck not this asshole again ([personal profile] trollophoroi) wrote in [community profile] netslum2023-10-15 07:31 pm

un: fandaniel

[ After the meeting and all has been said and done, Fandaniel, who had made no appearance whatsoever, pops onto the forum with this little message: ]

So how did your little meeting go?

Have you all decided to condemn an abandoned child for trying to warn in with the only tools they were allowed? Be not shy, friends. I have no doubt dear little Lily was one of the grand topics of the night~
curvaceous: (kara52)

[personal profile] curvaceous 2023-10-17 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Okay

You have the right to be mad about it
secondthoughts: (☀ 歓喜の声か)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. But it seems pretty clear that if we die in the game then

[ He's not finishing that. ]



Don't give me hope.
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 116)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-17 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
then I'll hold onto hope for both of us
tablescraps: (pic#16636759)

[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-17 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
It sounds like it.

I think a lot of people would miss you if you were gone. You seem like the type. So try to stay alive if you can.
secondthoughts: (☀ 嫌いなものが真実なら)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah.


[ Exactly. ]
secondthoughts: (☀ 揺れる痛みの波)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry.
secondthoughts: (✸ 君のせいじゃない)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
[ Fuck.


He isn't in the right emotional state to give her proper thanks, so he just...doesn't reply.

Off to mourn with him. ]
secondthoughts: (☀ あれは産声か)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
And I will be.
curvaceous: (kara51)

[personal profile] curvaceous 2023-10-17 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
I'll leave you to it Uncle Hector

Msg me if you need me
secondthoughts: (☀ 僕の短所を)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks.

[ He won't, but. The sentiment is appreciated all the same. ]
bleatingedge: leo in his default state (neutral)

[personal profile] bleatingedge 2023-10-17 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
thanks, hector

we just need to work even harder to keep everyone else safe

i'm sure he'd want that
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 046)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-17 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
that's nice of you to say

I'm just doing what I can

you be careful too alright? a lot of people did miss you and

we don't want to lose you again

dm me if you ever need anything
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 048)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-17 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
guess we're all getting backed into a corner here

be careful okay? I don't want us losing anyone else
gluttoning: (093 [d])

[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-17 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
[Ohhhhhh be glad this is not in person, Hector, because Misteaks immediately snaps.]

That doesn't make any sense.

Why the hell are you blaming me for it, then? What the hell could I have done? I'm not CCCorp. I don't have some magic power just because Lily talks to me. We'd still be stuck.

Do you think I could stop people dying by somehow telling you words that nobody believed anyway? Would that have stopped your NDA that made you disappear? Would that have stopped you being pissed off at CCCorp and pissed off at Lily and pissed off at me?

Will fighting me make you feel better or get you more answers? Because I don't think it will. And if he's actually gone, what I know won't bring Yael back.
secondthoughts: (listening)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
[ Goddamn.

Good thing for Mithrun, Hector is taking this seriously, and the wall of text actually gives him time to simmer down a little bit. He takes it all in, considers what he says, and finds it fair (except those points about Fandaniel, because clearly Mithrun is biased against him when he's Perfectly Fine). ]


Thanks for this, Mithrun.

This doesn't really inspire much faith in this entity for me. Why are we supposed to trust it, again?


[ Considering he doesn't trust Zelkova, or Hien... ]
secondthoughts: (listening)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
You don't need to tell me twice.
secondthoughts: (☀ 歓喜の声か)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
[ Grief is one hell of a drug.

Where Fai might lock himself away, it's at this point Hector realizes he's lashing out at the people he cares about.

(Keep them away, so that he can't hurt them, right?)

He reads Barrett's message over and over and over again and as he cools, he admits he's right. He's totally right. The situation is complicated, and his desperation to lash out or point fingers is causing him to gloss over the nuance (would he have picked up on it normally?). It isn't fair to him, or anyone else who has a better grasp of the situation than he does.

He's shown too much, so he clams up again, and relents. ]


You're right.

I'm sorry, Barrett.
tablescraps: (pic#16777294)

[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-17 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
To my understanding, the people that believe in his cause believe the following:

1) CC Corp and individuals affiliated with it (Hien, Zelkova) cannot be trusted.
2) They believe CC Corp cannot be trusted because it has goals antiethical to:
  a) the well-being of its players and;
  b) the entities inside Fragment.
3) Consequently, they believe that Lily has been trying to make players aware of a), while also worrying about b), as Lily is linked to Fragment as an AI.
4) They believe that Lily has been unable to communicate this directly to players, for fear of retaliation by CC Corp toward the players; and, potentially, toward himself. For example, they understand that what happened to Barrett's leg is CC Corp retaliating for associating with Lily.
5) They believe that Lily did not think anyone would just quit the game if simply told it was dangerous or unsafe, so he tried to demonstrate it via the armors, hall of mirrors, and other glitches.
6) They believe Lily's motive was to demonstrate what CC Corp could and intended to do with the players, but he wanted to demonstrate it on a smaller scale that could be mitigated. IE, the armor can be unequipped at will, the hall of mirrors could be avoided after the first visit, etc.
7) They find Lily's logic - to demonstrate instead of simply say - was not mislaid, as no one quit the game after seeing it was, in fact, dangerous or unsafe.
8) CC Corp has refused to argue, defend, or assist players. CC Corp has also never promised to be of help at any point in the future, and has instead blamed the players for CC Corp's own mechanisms and shortcomings. The administrators closest in level to the players (Hien, Zelkova) appear to be a mix of intentionally left in the dark or unable to speak or act to our benefit in most situations - but they still can't or won't explain CC Corp's motives.
9) Conversely, they believe that, unlike CC Corp, Lily has, since the beginning, been transparent, amenable, and has promised he has the well being of the players in mind. They believe he is working toward this end explicitly.
10) Zelkova has offered these bracelets to combat the monsters flooding the towns, but so has Lily. Individuals seem to find this another sign of Lily's player-aligned motive.


( Mithrun summarizing the Lily belief brochure, probably, )
Edited 2023-10-17 06:55 (UTC)
gluttoning: (001)

[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-17 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
You're only sorry someone got mad.

[Why can't you do anything right, Barrett

Sorry means nothing. Do you think sorry means anything, Barrett? Do you think saying sorry is going to bring her back?
]


Other people can answer your questions. I'm done.

[Misteaks will not return to this post.]
tablescraps: (pic#16659028)

[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-17 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
( ... )

I might. But it might not make a lot of sense. Is that fine?
secondthoughts: (✸ 何をしようとしたのかも忘れて)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry because I let my anger get the better of me and I didn't see I was hurting you.

I was shouldering you with too much. And I'm sorry.


[ He knows he won't read it, but. ]
gluttoning: (Default)

[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-17 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
[SENT 3:03PM

(He is not coming back to read this, Hector is correct.)]
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 116)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-17 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
of course

even if I can't help I'm willing to listen

we've all got a lot on our minds
gluttoning: (002)

[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-17 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'll be fine.

You be careful, too.
secondthoughts: (☀ 僕の長所を)

[personal profile] secondthoughts 2023-10-17 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
[ Good god, this game is a fucking shitshow. All of it.

Reading this, Hector scrubs a hand down his face, because while this doesn't remove his distrust of this Lily, he finds himself sympathizing with a lot of it.

Just burn it all to the ground, tbh. ]


Right.

What do you think about all this?

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