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aw fuck not this asshole again ([personal profile] trollophoroi) wrote in [community profile] netslum2023-10-15 07:31 pm

un: fandaniel

[ After the meeting and all has been said and done, Fandaniel, who had made no appearance whatsoever, pops onto the forum with this little message: ]

So how did your little meeting go?

Have you all decided to condemn an abandoned child for trying to warn in with the only tools they were allowed? Be not shy, friends. I have no doubt dear little Lily was one of the grand topics of the night~
gluttoning: (091 [d])

[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That was my fault. Not his. He had to keep himself safe. If I told the wrong people, we'd all end up in a lot more trouble.

I didn't like it. But... I understand it.
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
you said you tried and couldn't

you want to clarify that? because right now it sounds like lily gagged you and I don't see how that's your fault

un: hana

[personal profile] threatmewted 2023-10-16 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
He means literally tried to say something and nothing came out, I assume.

I saw it myself when he tried to talk to me. We could only communicate properly over phones irl.
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 020)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks I've got that now

I'm feeling pretty uneasy about that

doesn't it mean lily has as much control over us as cccorp?

[personal profile] threatmewted 2023-10-16 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It could.

If he's messing with the game's code, he might just be piggybacking off of things CC Corp is capable of.

Or maybe even more.
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 017)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
you're right

I guess it was always like that when we only knew him as dv

Do you think cccorp would actually let zelkova have that kind of power too?

that feels like something every scifi movie tells you not to do

[personal profile] threatmewted 2023-10-16 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly? I don't even know why they have Zelkova here in the first place.

I don't know what capacity they actually expected him to act as an admin, and I don't know if he's really the voice of CC Corp in AI form or just another part of some big experiment dressed up as one of their operatives.
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 046)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
he has admin privileges but that's different than being able to edit the whole game code

I know he's been dealing with bugs like those shielded monsters

but he seems more attached to fragment than cccorp so I think he's just their final iteration in an ai admin they don't have to pay or give breaks to

some pet project of the people who made him and lily

Who knew when they said robots would take our jobs they meant customer service?

[personal profile] threatmewted 2023-10-17 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
He's the "son" of people who made the game, isn't he?

Maybe this is supposed to be like some kind of baby raising simulator. Like, a super fucked up one.
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-17 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's that

I think it's just some nerd thing and they got real attached to their creation

I guess if I was an ai I'd call my creators my parents too

[personal profile] threatmewted 2023-10-17 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not convinced. It wouldn't be the first totally batshit idea CC Corp has had, and it sounds like his "parents" were total weirdos too.
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried to tell people some things that I've told you now, to try and explain things that were happening. But I couldn't make the words come out of my mouth. I couldn't write it down. I couldn't shake my head.

I promised him a long time ago I would keep things between us, because he didn't feel safe. I guessed he just didn't want me to break that promise just because I was scared.
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 074)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
then that's not your fault

i don't think it's right either. you can't just control people to make sure they do what you want them to do

you have to let them make their own choices just like you make a choice to trust them or not
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
He wasn't controlling me.

Lily always gave me a choice.
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 025)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
do you really think being gagged like that is a choice

or do you just feel like you have to defend him?
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I trust him. If he thought something was going to get me or him in danger, it's not like he had any other way to stop it.
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
if he trusted you as much as you trusted him then talking it out was all he had to do

I know lily and zelkova act real human but they're not and you can't assume they're going to understand what being human is about

maybe lily doesn't mean to hurt anybody. I don't think zelkova does

that doesn't mean they can't or won't
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I know that much. The mirrors weren't good for everyone. Every piece of armor I've gotten has been hard for me to handle. It's hurt.

I still trust them.
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
sure and to an extent I trust zelkova

but I get why people won't trust either one and this all gives me reason to trust lily less

you're the one lily talks to. most of us haven't gotten any say in whether we're okay with how they've handled things or if we trust them or want their interference
Edited 2023-10-16 23:54 (UTC)
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-17 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Then let's just hope Lily finds a way to talk to the rest of you.

I don't want to force anyone's trust. And I've never been good with words. But something will have to be good enough to convince people we're telling the truth.
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 061)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-17 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're lying lily probably is doing what he thinks is best

what he thinks is best and what is best may not be the same thing for us

did you apologize to vogel and tabibito yet?
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-17 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
[...]

I've messaged both of them. But that's between me and them.
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-17 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
yeah yeah just making sure

we all walked into this situation but we only have each other and we can't pick fights over disagreements

best thing you can do if you want people to trust lily is talk to him and advocate for us until lily's willing to talk to us himself
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-17 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I've been trying. Lily doesn't feel like he belongs very easily, even though I've wanted him to know there's people here who want to show him kindness.

But if he's actually talking to other people now, I guess that's a sign he's feeling a little bolder.
legendofthelion: (☀︎ 048)

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-17 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
guess we're all getting backed into a corner here

be careful okay? I don't want us losing anyone else

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