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aw fuck not this asshole again ([personal profile] trollophoroi) wrote in [community profile] netslum2023-10-15 07:31 pm

un: fandaniel

[ After the meeting and all has been said and done, Fandaniel, who had made no appearance whatsoever, pops onto the forum with this little message: ]

So how did your little meeting go?

Have you all decided to condemn an abandoned child for trying to warn in with the only tools they were allowed? Be not shy, friends. I have no doubt dear little Lily was one of the grand topics of the night~
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[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-16 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
( I'M SO SORRY HECTOR TO ADD TO THIS... )

He couldn't. Lily blocked him from speaking.

Don't blame him for this. It's not his fault.
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[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-16 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You're fine.

Even if you could have said something, it wouldn't have made people log off, and it wouldn't have changed the coming circumstance. The people who are still here are the type of people who don't quit, for better or worse.
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[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-16 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem irritable. That doesn't seem like you.
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[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-16 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
( he will never log off )

Ignore you, when you're a sore to even see?

( He might be big mad about the FD and Fakerun... Maybe just a little... )

I don't. I'm guessing I like Lily because it's right to. I'm meant to? Regardless. Interesting for you to speak of hearts, though.
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Un: FlameMane

[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[Dehya's mostly been keeping her opinions on this Lily to herself, given she hasn't spoken to him and the discussion at the meeting sure fell apart. But this...]

gotta admit that lily silencing people doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence

the road to hell is paved with good intentions right

in the end how is any ai going to know what's best for humans?
Edited 2023-10-16 22:49 (UTC)
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1/2

[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't say it's fine when it's obviously not.
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2/2

[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
[...

After a pause:]


Sorry.

Sorry, I shouldn't have said that.
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That was my fault. Not his. He had to keep himself safe. If I told the wrong people, we'd all end up in a lot more trouble.

I didn't like it. But... I understand it.
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[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-16 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I think both sides have forced secrets. Both Lily, and CC Corp - the official corporate communications, Hien, and Zelkova - are all functionally digital entities pursuing goals unclear to most of the players here.

I don't know if an AI know what's best what's humans. But I don't know if humans know what's best for humans, either. It's humans running CC Corp... presumably.


( unless...? )
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
you said you tried and couldn't

you want to clarify that? because right now it sounds like lily gagged you and I don't see how that's your fault
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[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-16 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
( ... )

It's fine.

( Again. )

I'm always going to tell you it's not your fault. Because it's not. It's okay if you don't know how to believe me yet.
Edited 2023-10-16 22:58 (UTC)
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
i don't think anyone here has trusted cccorp for a while

I'm not arguing that but lily and zelkova both don't have the same things to lose that we do

fragment is their only home and this is all they know

un: hana

[personal profile] threatmewted 2023-10-16 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
He means literally tried to say something and nothing came out, I assume.

I saw it myself when he tried to talk to me. We could only communicate properly over phones irl.
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried to tell people some things that I've told you now, to try and explain things that were happening. But I couldn't make the words come out of my mouth. I couldn't write it down. I couldn't shake my head.

I promised him a long time ago I would keep things between us, because he didn't feel safe. I guessed he just didn't want me to break that promise just because I was scared.
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[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-16 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think they might feel they have more to lose? If Fragment is shut down, or reformatted, then they go with it, presumably. They might think that the players have a fallback, unlike them - that, if allowed to log off, they could.

I wonder if Zelkova would accept that with a smile, though.
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[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-16 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you need me to prove it to you?

Do you really think you have one?
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[...

He won't respond further. But Mithrun will get a ping in his inbox shortly.]
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
then that's not your fault

i don't think it's right either. you can't just control people to make sure they do what you want them to do

you have to let them make their own choices just like you make a choice to trust them or not
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[personal profile] gluttoning 2023-10-16 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
He wasn't controlling me.

Lily always gave me a choice.
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
cccorp has all the power to shut it down or delete them whether we're here or not

maybe they think they have more but I don't think it can be compared that way

we have different things to lose

and not everyone here is going to get to wait things out on indefinite life support until we can get out
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks I've got that now

I'm feeling pretty uneasy about that

doesn't it mean lily has as much control over us as cccorp?
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[personal profile] legendofthelion 2023-10-16 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
do you really think being gagged like that is a choice

or do you just feel like you have to defend him?
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[personal profile] tablescraps 2023-10-16 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Different things to lose is a good way to put it, I think.

Are you in danger, in reality?

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